Pt with Pathogenic Bacteria PI-IBS
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Lorraine,
Will be interested in Dr. Woeller’s response, but this does remind me of a client of mine who vacationed with her husband in the African bush country. Went from being a 100 lb. healthy RD to quite ill & about 250 lbs. Many of her symptoms related to ear problems though and she kept seeking out the best ear surgeons in the country. (Can’t believe now that I missed that.) MRT/LEAP helped with other issues, Parasitology Center found some small things but nothing behind her major issues. Long story short – turned out to be Lyme disease. I think it is missed a lot and it is recommended to find an ILAD physician, from what I understand. -
Lorraine,
The feeling full when hardly eaten is suspicious of SIBO. Also, the low body weight and losing hair could point to malabsorption. There are multiple possibilities here.I would suggest doing an Organic Acids Test from Great Plains and GI Pathogen Screen #401-H from BioHealth Laboratory. I would absolutely want to rule out C. Difficile, as well as Helicobacter pylori. I would be surprised if there wasn’t an invasive candida situation going on with this individual.
If those tests are clear I would try the patient on the Comprehensive Cleansing Program from BioBotanical Research – http://www.biobotanicalresearch.com. This cleansing program is useful for people with SIBO and generalized bowel toxicity. If you look on their homepage under Products you will see a link to this program. There is a dosing chart that can be downloaded as well.
Sincerely,
Dr. WoellerP.S. Lyme disease is always a possibility and this can be tested for through IgeneX – http://www.Igenex.com
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The Parasitology test already ruled out h pylori and c diff. What about the enterobacter? Isn’t that pathogenic and needs treatment – ? Please explain if and how you would treat this.
Why would I need to run another stool test?
I do think the OAT test would be helpful, and a SIBO test.
But, Do I absolutely need to do more testing? – what if there weren’t tests – and I think she has SIBO, has enterobacter, ? candida. Cant I treat with something that would cover all the bases (please specify what that might be) – and follow up with a cleanse if needed?Thanks
Lorraine
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Lorraine,
Enterobacter is a commensalism bacteria. In some people it can contribute to metabolic syndrome, but it is not necessarily a pathogen that needs automatic antibiotic treatment. I still feel you best bet is the Comprehensive Cleansing Program as it contains Biocidin which is very good for bacteria and candida.Sincerely,
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Thank You. I will try it with this client. Do I have to add a biofilm agent like Interfase Plus, or is that covered in the formulations? Also, I had read that Candida becomes resistant very quickly to whatever anti fungal agent you are using and you should alternate every 3-4 weeks. How does the Biocidin cleanse address this concern.?
Will the comprehensive cleanse also address vaginal candida? or, would I have to address that separately.
Lorraine
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Thank You. I will try it with this client. Do I have to add a biofilm agent like Interfase Plus, or is that covered in the formulations? Also, I had read that Candida becomes resistant very quickly to whatever anti fungal agent you are using and you should alternate every 3-4 weeks. How does the Biocidin cleanse address this concern.?
Will the comprehensive cleanse also address vaginal candida? or, would I have to address that separately.
Lorraine
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Thank You. I will try it with this client. Do I have to add a biofilm agent like Interfase Plus, or is that covered in the formulations? Also, I had read that Candida becomes resistant very quickly to whatever anti fungal agent you are using and you should alternate every 3-4 weeks. How does the Biocidin cleanse address this concern.?
Will the comprehensive cleanse also address vaginal candida? or, would I have to address that separately.
Lorraine
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Thank You. I will try it with this client. Do I have to add a biofilm agent like Interfase Plus, or is that covered in the formulations? Also, I had read that Candida becomes resistant very quickly to whatever anti fungal agent you are using and you should alternate every 3-4 weeks. How does the Biocidin cleanse address this concern.?
Will the comprehensive cleanse also address vaginal candida? or, would I have to address that separately.
Lorraine
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Thank You. I will try it with this client. Do I have to add a biofilm agent like Interfase Plus, or is that covered in the formulations? Also, I had read that Candida becomes resistant very quickly to whatever anti fungal agent you are using and you should alternate every 3-4 weeks. How does the Biocidin cleanse address this concern.?
Will the comprehensive cleanse also address vaginal candida? or, would I have to address that separately.
Lorraine
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